The Trinity
Discussing the Trinity with Jehovah's Witnesses is
very tempting, it goes to the very core of our
Christian beliefs. Keep in mind that when we talk
about the Trinity we are talking about the innermost
makeup of God. For us to try to fully understand the
Trinity is like a 2 year old trying to understand
how a computer microchip works. As mere humans we
simply can not understand the makeup of our creator.
More
importantly perhaps is the fact that Jehovah's
Witnesses have been taught to loathe the Trinity and
they are trained to defend their beliefs. The
Trinity and the Deity of Christ is generally one of
the last Christian beliefs that an Ex-Jehovah's
Witness comes to accept. Many Ex-Jehovah's Witnesses
do not accept the Trinity belief for months even
years after leaving, some have never accepted it.
The belief that Jehovah is one God and that he
created Jesus Christ as an angel is a deeply
engrained belief and is a subject best avoided until
later.
When
you feel you are at the point in your relationship
with a Jehovah's Witness to discuss the Trinity is
some information that might help. Remember one
should be very well prepared to discuss this topic,
Jehovah's Witnesses are well trained on this subject
and can sound very convincing to those who are not
well versed in the scriptures.
The Trinity
Dan Corner
[Taken from the audio message of the same title]
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The Trinity is a
very important doctrine to know about because there
are a lot of groups that deny the Trinity. Some,
like the Jehovah's Witnesses (JWs), would say that
Jesus Christ is not God and that the Holy Spirit is
not a person. Other groups like the Jesus-Only
people or the Apostolics, also known as the United
Pentecostals, believe that Jesus is God, but they
believe that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit
are different modes of the same person. So hopefully
I can give you enough information from the Word of
God that you can counter these heresies, because
that's exactly what they are.
Definition
First I'll give you the definition of the
Trinity, and then we'll work from there. The Bible
teaches that within the nature of the one true God
exists three separate and distinct persons: the
Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. They are
co-equal in nature and co-eternal. The Trinity is
NOT three gods in one. The Jehovah's Witnesses
would say that the Trinity is defined as three gods
in one. Christians definitely do not believe that
the Trinity doctrine is three gods in one. All
through the Old Testament and many times in the New,
we clearly see there is but one true God.
For about one year, because of my brother, who
used to be a Jehovah's Witness, I studied
essentially nothing at all but the Trinity and the
deity of Christ. When I found out about Gal. 4:8,
all of a sudden I heard bells and saw stars, so to
speak. It all came together, thank God. Gal. 4:8 is
a very important, key Scripture in understanding the
doctrine of the Trinity. The Bible says:
"Formerly, when you did not know God, you
were slaves to those who by nature are not
gods."
By implication, we now know that there is one
true God by nature. That true God which
exists is Father, Son and Holy Spirit. All three
persons are eternal, all-knowing, all-powerful and
everywhere present. Some people have their car as
their god. Of course, that's a false god because
that car is not eternal. That car is not
all-powerful, all-knowing; and it's not everywhere
present. Only the Father, the Son and the Holy
Spirit that we read of in the Holy Bible possess
these four unique attributes. Therefore, they alone
are by nature God. Nowhere in the Bible does it
say that this God that we call the true God, that
Christians worship and serve, is just the Father, or
a single person known as the Father. And I'll
show you many reasons why Jesus is God and why he
was worshiped, and he was prayed to, and also why
the Holy Spirit is God as well.
Now when we deal with any group that denies any
Biblical teaching, it's always good, if possible, to
offer a natural illustration to better bring across
exactly what we are talking about. And a good way to
illustrate the Trinity would be with H2O, which is
common water-two parts hydrogen, one part oxygen.
You can freeze H2O and you would have the solid, or
ice. You can turn on your faucet and you would have
the liquid H2O. You can hear the whistle of H2O that
comes out of the tea kettle spout which is steam,
but it would still be H2O. H2O can and does exist in
solid, liquid and gas. The solid is not the liquid;
the liquid is not the gas; and yet all three are of
one nature: H2O. And that is exactly how it is with
the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. The
Father is not the Son, the Father is not the Holy
Spirit, and Jesus is not the Holy Spirit. And
I'll show you from the Bible proof of why I said
that regarding the three distinctions between the
Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Plurality in the Godhead
If you're dealing with a Jehovah's Witness, you
have to deal with three issues to prove to that
person that the Bible really does teach the Trinity.
Number one, you have to show that there is
plurality in the Godhead. If you must deal with
the Trinity, I recommend that you start off showing
them that the Bible teaches there is plurality in
the Godhead, since they don't think the Bible
teaches that. The second thing you have to deal with
is the persons of the Godhead, namely the Father,
the Son and the Holy Spirit. And of course, the JWs
certainly won't deny, argue or contest that the
Father and the Son are persons, but they will
contest our statement that the Holy Spirit is a
person. So you have to have answers. And thirdly,
are they all God? And again, they will not argue at
all regarding the Father. They know the Father is
God. But they certainly do not believe that Jesus is
God and the Holy Spirit is God, since they think the
Holy Spirit is an impersonal, active force likened
unto a radar beam. If you can show them what the
Bible teaches on these three areas, you can prove to
a Jehovah's Witness that the Bible really does teach
the Holy Trinity.
First of all, I mentioned the fact that we need
to convey to the Jehovah's Witness plurality in the
Godhead, and I think the very best way to start off
trying to prove this point would be from the book of
Genesis, chapter 1 verses 26 and 27:
"Then [Elohim or] God said, ‘Let us
[notice that plural pronoun] make man in our
[there's that plural word again] image, in our
likeness, and let them rule over the fish of
the sea and the birds of the air, over the
livestock, over all the earth, and over all the
creatures that move along the ground.' So
[Elohim] God created man in his own image."
Notice the singular pronoun his. The verse
before we saw the plural pronoun us and also the
plural word our. Our image and our
likeness, and then in verse 27 we have the word
Elohim which is plural. And it states in his
image, that is, singular].
In Genesis chapter 5 verse 1 we read:
"This is the written account of Adam's line.
When [Elohim] God created man, he made him in
the likeness of God."
I want you to see that it says that he,
singular, made man in his likeness. In Gen.
1:27, he was made in his image. Verse 26 of Genesis
1 says let us make man in our image and our
likeness. Now man is not made in the image of
God and angels. I would like to bring that out
immediately because our Jehovah's Witness friends
would say, well really God was talking to the angels
when he said let us make man in our image. And of
course, there's no possible way that can be shown in
the Scriptures. In fact, just the opposite is shown.
If you use these verses and you meditate on them, I
guarantee that a Jehovah's Witness won't have
anywhere to go. You can back him or her in a corner
and just keep them there and show them the Bible
teaches that there is plurality in the Godhead.
Now I mentioned that the word Elohim is
used here in the book of Genesis. In fact, it's used
over 2,000 times in the Old Testament. It's not only
used in regard to the True and Living God, it's also
used in regard to judges and angels. So it's not an
air-tight argument that there is plurality in the
Godhead, but it certainly does imply that there is.
It alludes to plurality in the Godhead. And after we
get done with all of the other evidence, I think it
should be clear to you, that is exactly what the
word Elohim is getting across-that is, there
is plurality in the Godhead, namely the Father, the
Son and the Holy Spirit. They are the one true God
that the Bible speaks of.
Still trying to get across to the Jehovah's
Witnesses the fact that there is plurality in the
Godhead, I would then take them to the book of
Daniel 7:13, 14:
"In my vision at night I looked, and there
before me was one like a son of man, coming with
the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient
of Days and was led into his presence. He was
given authority, glory and sovereign power; all
peoples, nations and men of every language
worshiped him. His dominion is an
everlasting dominion that will not pass away,
and his kingdom is one that will never be
destroyed."
The New International Version reads, "worshiped
him." The KJV or the King James Version of the
Bible states that they served him. The word
in the Hebrew is worshiped. They worshiped
the one that's called Son of Man. And this is Jesus.
So not only is the Ancient of Days worshiped, we see
that there is someone else that's separate and
distinct from the Ancient of Days, according to
these two verses that is likewise worshiped.
Therefore, there must be plurality in the Godhead.
There has to be, because only the True and the
Living God of the Bible can be worshiped. To
worship anything or anyone else would be
idolatry.
YHWH Elohim is One (Compound Unity)
Deut. 6:4 is a verse that the Jehovah's Witnesses
will bring up to you in their effort to disprove the
Trinity, but you can turn the tables on them and
show just the opposite. That verse reads:
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God [there's
that word Elohim again], the LORD is
one."
So here we find out that YHWH Elohim is one. Now
this is a very important thing to listen to, because
this word one shows compound unity.
And you can draw a little circle around the word
one and put off into the margin of your Bible,
Gen. 2:24. And under that reference write, echod,
because that's the Hebrew word. This word one
as used in Gen. 2:24 is compound unity. Gen. 2:24 is
a verse that certainly most of us are acquainted
with:
"For this reason a man will leave his father
and mother and be united to his wife, and they
will become one flesh."
There's the compound unity. The same exact
thing that YHWH is, compound unity, husband and wife
become.
So we see again in Deuteronomy 6:4 that the one
true God of the Bible, YHWH, is compound unity
because of the comparison from Gen. 2:24 and Deut.
6:4. So that's the very first thing I would try to
get across and just lay down to somebody that would
be like a Jehovah's Witness, that the Bible teaches
certainly from these verses, the possibility of at
least compound unity. And I think from Daniel
chapter 7, it should be crystal clear there has to
be compound unity in the Godhead. There must be
plurality in the Godhead.
Are All Three Persons (With Intellect, Emotion
And Will)?
The second thing you are going to have to deal
with when you are dealing with a Jehovah's Witness
is, are all three persons defined in the Trinity
really that, a person? The Father, the Son and the
Holy Spirit. Now JWs certainly will not quibble over
the Father or the Son but they will over the Holy
Spirit. So the next thing you need to do is to
define exactly what you mean by a person. A
person possesses intellect, emotion and will.
The Father possesses intellect, he possesses emotion
and he possesses will. And so does the Son, and so
do all of us. And that's because we're all persons
or personalities. And you can say to that Jehovah's
Witness, if I can show you in the Bible where the
Holy Spirit possesses intellect, emotion and will,
the only thing we can rationally conclude is, that
the Holy Spirit, like it or not, is indeed a person
as is the Father and the Son. So then you would take
them to Jn. 14:26 and start off there. You're trying
to establish the fact that the Holy Spirit has an
intellect. Jn. 14:26 reads:
"But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit,
whom the Father will send in my name, will
teach you all things and will remind you of
everything I have said to you."
For someone to teach, they must possess
intellect. So if the Holy Spirit teaches, he has an
intellect. And it's also shown that the Holy Spirit
does teach in other verses as well such as 1 Cor.
2:13 and Neh. 9:20.
Then you need to show the Jehovah's Witness that
the Holy Spirit has emotion. So how can you
prove that from the Scriptures? Rom. 15:30 says
something along those lines. Paul is writing and he
said to the church at Rome:
"I urge you, brothers, by our Lord Jesus
Christ and by the love of the Spirit, to
join me in my struggle by praying to God for
me."
So he referred to the love of the Spirit. Love is
an emotion, and the Holy Spirit has love. Therefore,
the Holy Spirit has an emotion.
The third and final point that you need to drive
home in showing that the Holy Spirit is a person is
the fact that he has a will. And that's shown
in 1 Cor. 12:11:
"All these are the work of one and the same
Spirit, and he gives them to each one, just
as he determines" or just as he wills
says the KJV.
So the Holy Spirit has intellect, he has emotion,
and he has will, just like the Father and just like
the Son. And not only that, there are other
indications that the Holy Spirit is indeed a person.
Let me cite a few other facts regarding the Holy
Spirit. The Holy Spirit guides, he speaks and he
hears (Jn. 16:13). The Holy Spirit intercedes (Rom.
8:26). The Holy Spirit forbids certain actions (Acts
16:6,7). The Holy Spirit sends into service (Acts
13:4). The Holy Spirit can be grieved (Eph. 4:30).
The Holy Spirit may be blasphemed (Mt. 12:31). He
can be lied to (Acts 5:3). The Holy Spirit can be
insulted or outraged (Heb. 10:29). And the Holy
Spirit can be resisted (Acts 7:51). These are all
traits of a person. And again, we see from all these
verses that the Holy Spirit is indeed a person as is
the Father and the Son.
One final point I would try to drive home and
that's found in Acts 13:1, 2:
"In the church at Antioch there were prophets
and teachers: Barnabas, Simeon called Niger,
Lucius of Cyrene, Manaen (who had been brought
up with Herod the tetrarch) and Saul. While they
were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy
Spirit said, ‘Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul
for the work to which I have called
them.' "
Here we see the personal pronoun I.
So this again shows that the Holy Spirit is not an
active force, but instead a person. He possesses
intellect, emotion and will and here he refers to
himself with the personal pronoun. It's the Holy
Spirit that is speaking here through this unnamed
prophet. Therefore in the light of all this
evidence, the Holy Spirit cannot be an active force.
Jesus And The Holy Spirit: God By Nature
The third thing you need to drive home to a
Jehovah's Witness in your effort to teach the
Trinity is that both Jesus and the Holy Spirit are
God by nature. And you might have to repeat this a
few times because they were taught that we think
Jesus is the Father. And you need to tell them right
up front, as a Trinitarian, I do not believe that
Jesus is the Father. He is a separate and distinct
person from the Father. He is not the Father,
but he is God by nature. His essence is God. His
substance is God. But he is not the person of the
Father. He's a separate and distinct person from the
Father.
So how do you go about showing that Jesus is God?
In John 20:28, we find out where one of the apostles
called Jesus his Lord and his God. He did not just
call Jesus his Lord, but also called Jesus his God.
His name was Thomas, one of the original Twelve. I
like to say to a Jehovah's Witness, are you in the
same light, in the same truth as the apostles? If
you are, then you should be able to call Jesus the
same as the Apostle Thomas called him. I can call
Jesus both my Lord and my God. Can you? And they
usually say, well Jesus is my Lord. And I say at
that point, well I'm asking you, Can you say he
is both your Lord and your God? And of course
they try to dodge the point you are trying to make.
They try to evade the issue you are trying to drive
home. And you can take them, if you have the Kingdom
Interlinear, right to the Greek where it says The
God. But the issue is, Thomas called him God,
and believed that Jesus was his God. Now he's
a strict monotheistic Jew. He believed in only one
God, and yet he thought that Jesus was his God.
Another very important truth along these lines
showing that Jesus is deity is found in Heb. 1:8.
The speaker in Heb. 1:8 is the Heavenly Father.
Certainly the Heavenly Father would know who Jesus
is. And in Heb. 1:8, the Heavenly Father calls Jesus
The God says the Greek. He identifies Jesus
as God.
And by the way, there are eight reasons in
Hebrews 1 why Jesus is not an angel -- the very
thing the Jehovah's Witnesses say that he is.
They want you to prove from the Bible that Jesus is
God. You should turn the tables on them and say,
Prove to me that Jesus is an angel. And take
them to Hebrews chapter 1 and go over those verses
slowly. And I can guarantee they'll get frustrated
quickly because they are so clear.
Jesus Is Shown To Be God In Other Verses
Other verses show that Jesus is called God. If
you compare Jn. 1:1 with verse 14 of the same
chapter, you would find out that Jesus is the Word
and the Word was God. The Greek grammar rule
known as The Grandville Sharp Greek Grammar Rule
teaches that Jesus is called God in Titus 2:13 and 2
Pet. 1:1. So in Jn. 1:1; Jn. 20:28; Rom. 9:5; Phil.
2:6; Titus 2:13; Heb. 1:8 and 2 Pet. 1:1, Jesus is
called God. That should be good enough.
But in case it's not, there are other verses that
you can go to. The equivalent is shown elsewhere in
the Bible, even though the word God is not found. In
Jn. 8:58, Jesus said "Before Abraham was, I am."
He's citing the fact, that truth, that he is eternal
without beginning. And in verse 59, the Jews
perfectly understood what he had said. They picked
up stones to stone him for blasphemy. Blasphemy is
claiming the attributes of God. And that's exactly
what Jesus was claiming for himself. And if he
claimed that for himself by saying, "before Abraham
was, I am," then he's saying, in essence, that he
would have to be God. He did not say,
"before Abraham was I have been." There are only two
categories in this universe: God and his creation.
If you're not part of creation, then you must be
God. If you're God, you're eternal.
Not only in Jn. 8:58 do we see the equivalent of
Jesus being called God, but we see the same
in the book of Revelation.
Jesus is YHWH Almighty
In chapter 1, verse 8 we see that the Alpha
and Omega is Almighty. In Rev. 1:17,18
Jesus identifies himself. He said to John:
"Do not be afraid. I am the First and the
Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and
behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold
the keys of death and Hades."
So clearly this is Jesus, since he was dead.
Note: He said that he is the First and the Last.
There is a third verse you need with Rev. 1:8 and
Rev. 1:17,18 to show from the book of Revelation
that Jesus is God or that he's Almighty.
That Scripture is Rev. 22:13. There Jesus, who is
speaking, said:
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and
the Last, the Beginning and the End."
The JWs might contest that it is Jesus speaking.
Don't be upset if they do argue or refuse to accept
that it's the Lord. The point is that the
Alpha and the Omega is the same as the First
and the Last. If the Alpha and the Omega is
the same as the First and the Last, and he has to be
according to Rev. 22:13, and Jesus is the First and
the Last (Rev. 1:17,18), and the Alpha and Omega is
Almighty (Rev. 1:8), then Jesus is Almighty.
Jesus has to be Almighty if you follow all
three of these verses all the way through.
In the Jehovah's Witness commentary, they say
Rev. 22:13 is the Father speaking there and not
Jesus. In the red letter edition of the NIV, it's in
red print. So if you have someone that would not
know what the official stand of the Watchtower is,
you won't have any difficulty with them, but if it's
a more experienced Jehovah's Witness, of course
they're going to contest everything they can. Again,
all you need to just drive it home is the point that
Rev. 22:13 is stating, like it or not, that
the First and the Last is the same as the
Alpha and Omega. That's all you need to show
from this verse. And since Jesus is the First
and the Last, and the Alpha and Omega is
the Almighty One, then Jesus is the Almighty
One.
Matthew 28:18 is as clear as a crystal.
Jesus said, "All authority in heaven and on earth
has been given to me." Some translations say, all
power in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
Same word: power, authority. I ask the Jehovah's
Witnesses, "Who has all power or all authority in
heaven?" And they look at that and they say, it
was given to Jesus. And I usually say, well you're
right, it was given to him but tell me, Who has
all of the authority and all of the power in heaven,
the Father or the Son, according to this verse?
And like it or not, if they're going to answer,
they're going to have to say that this verse is
teaching that Jesus, and not the Father, has all
power in heaven. Ask them if they are worshiping
the one with all power in heaven. Now does it make
sense that Jesus is an angel? Can an angel have all
power in heaven? (Col. 2:9 likewise shows that Jesus
is God by nature.)
Old and New Testament Comparisons
At one point in time, I was doubtful about the
deity of Christ because of my brother. And when I
learned about the comparison between Isaiah 40:3 and
Matthew 3:1-3, all doubt vanished once and for all.
Isaiah 40:3 teaches that the voice of
one crying in the wilderness will prepare the way
before YHWH or God. Matthew 3:1-3 teach
that John the Baptist is that voice. And if
you read on down in Matthew chapter 3, John was the
forerunner of the Lord Jesus. So according to Isaiah
the prophet, in chapter 40 verse 3 of his book, John
the Baptist is the voice who prepared the way
for YHWH, identified as the Lord Jesus
Christ. That's the only way that reason can come up
with an answer or a solution to that comparison.
Jesus must be the YHWH spoken of in Isaiah 40:3,
since the voice of one crying in the
wilderness is John the Baptist and John prepared the
way for Jesus.
Similarly, In Zechariah 12:10 we read:
"And I will pour out on the house of David
and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of
grace and supplication. They will look on me,
the one they have pierced, and they will
mourn for him as one mourns for an only child,
and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a
firstborn son."
Now if you would read John chapter 19 starting at
around verse 34 on down to verse 37, you would find
out that the same verse is referred to in the New
Testament and it is applied to none other than Jesus
Christ. By the way, the piercing here refers
to the Roman soldier pushing the spear up into the
side of the Lord (Jn. 19:34). Also, it was never the
Father who was pierced by the Roman spear. It
could have only been the Son. In Zechariah 12:10,
YHWH is speaking. He said it was me that they
pierced. How could that be, unless Jesus is God?
And that's exactly what Thomas believed (Jn. 20:28).
And that's exactly how the Heavenly Father
identified him in Hebrews 1:8.
A final comparison is found in Isaiah 8:13, 14.
And I think this is a very good one to remember:
"The LORD Almighty [you might
underline the word almighty] is the one
you are to regard as holy, he is the one you are
to fear, he is the one you are to dread, and he
will be a sanctuary; but for both houses of
Israel he will be a stone that causes men to
stumble and a rock that makes them fall."
Who is the he referring to? The LORD
Almighty. This same passage is referred to by
the Apostle Peter in his first epistle, chapter 2
verses 6-8. The context is Jesus:
"For in Scripture it says: ‘See, I lay a
stone in Zion, a chosen and precious
cornerstone, and the one who trusts in him will
never be put to shame.' Now to you who believe,
this stone is precious. But to those who do not
believe, ‘The stone the builders rejected has
become the capstone,' and ‘A stone that
causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them
fall.' "
Peter applies those verses in Isaiah to Jesus.
Isaiah said it's the LORD Almighty. Peter
must have believed Jesus is YHWH Almighty. Did he
not call Jesus, "God" in 2 Peter 1:1? Wasn't he an
apostle? He was in the truth. He was in the light.
Mr. Jehovah's Witness, why can't you say the same
about Jesus?
Four Unique Attributes That Only God Possesses
Let me cite another proof regarding the deity of
Christ. I pointed out before the fact that if Jesus
is God by nature, he would have to be eternal,
all-knowing, all-powerful and everywhere present.
Let me cite a few verses that show Jesus possesses
these four unique attributes that only God
possesses. And if you or me or anyone else in this
universe would possess these four unique attributes,
that person or thing would be part of the Godhead.
Obviously, it's uniquely held by the Father, the Son
and the Holy Spirit because those three persons
alone are eternal, all-knowing, all-powerful and
everywhere present.
First, Jesus is eternal. Micah 5:2 says he is
from everlasting. Col. 1:16 states that
he created everything. If Jesus created everything,
he can't be part of his own creation. So he would
have to be eternal.
In 1 Jn. 1:2, we find out that Jesus is called
eternal life. Now how could eternal life
have a beginning? Eternal life cannot have a
beginning because it's eternal. And that is what
Jesus is identified as in 1 Jn. 1:2. Jesus,
therefore, is eternal. He's not created. All the
verses the JWs would use to say that he was created
mean something else, as can be proven.
Jesus is also known as all-knowing or omniscient.
That is found in John 14:14 where it's certainly
alluded to because Jesus said whatever you ask
me, I will do it. Jesus said we could pray to
him. For us to pray to him, we are really saying
that Jesus would have to be all-knowing because if
there's a group of us here in the USA praying to the
Lord Jesus, and another group over in Canada, and
another group down in Mexico, Jesus would have to be
all-knowing to hear all of our prayers at the same
point in time.
And there is still more indirect proof that he is
all-knowing. In John 16:29, 30 we read:
"Then Jesus' disciples said, ‘Now you are
speaking clearly and without figures of speech.
Now we can see that you know all things
and that you do not even need to have anyone ask
you questions. This makes us believe that you
came from God.' "
And this same truth is reiterated again in John
21:17. Jesus said the third time to Simon, do you
love me? And then we read:
"Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the
third time, ‘Do you love me?' He said, ‘Lord,
you know all things; you know that I love
you.' "
So we see that Jesus is eternal; he's
all-knowing.
Is he all-powerful? Absolutely. I already
referred to the Scripture in Matthew 28:18 where he
said, all authority or all power in heaven and on
earth has been given to me. So he is all-powerful.
Is Jesus everywhere present? Matthew 18:20
teaches he is because Jesus said he promises where
two or three are gathered in my name there am I in
the midst of them. Jesus is where Christian brothers
and sisters are gathered, two or three of them. So
he's everywhere present. Did not Jesus say in Rev.
3:20, behold here I am. I stand at the door and
knock. If any man hear my voice and open the door,
I'll come in and eat with him and he with me? For
him to make that promise, he would have to be
everywhere present, and therefore God.
So Jesus is called God and there are
comparisons between the Old and the New Testament
that show the same. He is eternal, all-knowing,
all-powerful and everywhere present. Therefore Jesus
Christ is God. There's no question about
that.
The Holy Spirit: God By Nature
What else do we need to know when trying to prove
the Trinity to the Jehovah's Witnesses? The next
thing you need to deal with is the Holy Spirit. You
already showed the Jehovah's Witness that the
Holy Spirit is not an active force. You showed
the Jehovah's Witness that the Holy Spirit is a
person, but is the person of the Holy Spirit God
by nature? Well, let's find out. In Acts 5:3, 4 we
read this:
"Then Peter said, ‘Ananias, how is it that
Satan has so filled your heart that you have
lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for
yourself some of the money you received for the
land? Didn't it belong to you before it was
sold? And after it was sold, wasn't the money at
your disposal? What made you think of doing such
a thing? You have not lied to men but to God.'
"
Verse 3 says he lied to the Holy Spirit.
Verse 4 says he lied to God. Therefore the
Holy Spirit must be God.
The Deity of The Holy Spirit
I already shared a few comparisons between the
Old and the New that show the deity of Christ. What
about the deity of the Holy Spirit? Can it be shown
the same way? Yes it can. I can show you more
comparisons between the Old and the New Testaments
that will show that the Holy Spirit is God.
In Exodus 17:2, 7 we read:
"So they quarreled with Moses and said, ‘Give
us water to drink.' Moses replied, ‘Why do you
quarrel with me? Why do you put the LORD [that
is, Jehovah] to the test?' " ... "And he called
the place Massah and Meribah because the
Israelites quarreled and because they tested the
LORD [that is, Jehovah] saying, ‘Is the LORD [or
is Jehovah] among us or not?' "
Now this is referred to in the New Testament in
Hebrews 3:9. I want you to see the comparison. In
Hebrews 3:9 it is the Holy Spirit that is speaking
from verse 7. In verse 9 the Holy Spirit is
still speaking and he said, "where your fathers
tested and tried me and for forty years saw what
I did." So the Holy Spirit is the one they tested,
but Exodus 17 says it was Jehovah. So the Holy
Spirit must be Jehovah, or YHWH.
A second comparison is found in
Jeremiah chapter 31:31-34. This is an Old Testament
prophecy about the New Covenant, or the New
Testament:
" ‘The time is coming,' declares the LORD,
‘when I will make a new covenant with the house
of Israel and with the house of Judah. It will
not be like the covenant I made with their
forefathers when I took them by the hand to lead
them out of Egypt, because they broke my
covenant, though I was a husband to them,'
declares the LORD. ‘This is the covenant I will
make with the house of Israel after that time,'
declares the LORD. ‘I will put my law in their
minds and write it on their hearts. I will be
their God, and they will be my people. No longer
will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his
brother, saying, "Know the LORD," because they
will all know me, from the least of them to the
greatest,' declares the LORD. ‘For I will
forgive their wickedness and will remember their
sins no more.' "
This is a prophecy in the Old Testament regarding
the covenant that we're now under. Hebrews chapter
10:15-17 is where we need to go now. NOTE: The Holy
Spirit is speaking:
"The Holy Spirit also testifies to us
about this. First he says: ‘This is the covenant
I will make with them after that time, says the
Lord. I will put my laws in their hearts, and I
will write them on their minds.' Then he adds:
‘Their sins and lawless acts I will remember
no more.' "
So we see very clearly, by way of Old and New
Testament comparisons, that this is again proof that
the Holy Spirit is deity for the LORD is the one who
forgives and remembers sins no more, yet the other
passage says it's the Holy Spirit.
Another comparison would be Isaiah 6:8-10 and
Acts 28:25-27. Please ponder these passages for
yourself.
Is the Holy Spirit eternal, all-knowing,
all-powerful and everywhere present? Let's look into
the evidence.
Is he eternal? Hebrews 9:14 states that the Holy
Spirit is indeed eternal. He's called the eternal
Spirit.
Is he all-knowing? 1 Corinthians 2:10, 11 teach
that the Holy Spirit is all-knowing. He knows
everything:
"but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit.
The Spirit searches all things, even the deep
things of God. For who among men knows the
thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within
him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts
of God except the Spirit of God."
So these verses show that the Holy Spirit is
omniscient or all-knowing. Is he all powerful? Luke
1:35 teaches that he is. Is he everywhere present?
Psalm 139:7, 8 teach that the Holy Spirit is
everywhere present.
The Only Rational Conclusion
Let me recap. The Holy Spirit is called God
(Acts 5:3,4). The Holy Spirit, by way of comparisons
between the Old and the New Testament, is shown to
be deity (Ex. 17:2,7 cf. Heb. 3:9; Jer. 31:31-34 cf.
Heb. 10:15-17; etc.) and the Holy Spirit is eternal,
all-knowing, all-powerful and everywhere present.
Therefore, Mr. and Mrs. Jehovah's Witness, the only
rational thing to conclude is, that the Bible
teaches the Trinity even though the word
itself is not found in the Bible. By the way,
many words are not found in the Bible, but they are
taught. The word bible is not in the Bible.
The word millennium is not found in the
Bible, but it is certainly taught several times at
least in Revelation chapter 20. Just because the
word is not there does not mean it's not taught. The
Trinity is taught in the Bible.
Hopefully, if you can share this information with
an open Jehovah's Witness, and there are some, they
will see just what these Scriptures are teaching and
they'll cling to this truth. I would recommend that
when you're dealing with a Jehovah's Witness that
you avoid, if possible, the subject of the Trinity
and go to the subject of salvation. But if you
can't, and you must give an answer for the Trinity,
then let me recommend the evidence that I just
brought forth.
United Pentecostals (Jesus Only) and the
Apostolics
What about the United Pentecostals, also known as
the Jesus Only people or the Apostolics? How do you
deal with them? They believe in the deity of Christ.
They believe that the Holy Spirit is God. But
they believe that the Father, the Son and the Holy
Spirit are three different modes revealing the same
divine person. And they will argue this way. They
will say, I am a son, a husband and a father.
Notice the comparison: Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
So you see, it's possible. How would you answer?
You are not your own father. That's the answer.
You might be a father. You might be a son. You might
be a husband, but you're not your own father. And
Jesus is not the Father. And I'll show you why I say
that. One of the reasons the Jehovah's Witnesses
will refer to John 17 in their effort to disprove
the Trinity is, as I pointed out before, because
they were taught by the Watchtower that we
Trinitarians believe Jesus is the Father-something
we don't believe. But their argument is a good one
to use with the Jesus Only people. And that argument
is from John 17. Jesus prayed to the Father. Was
he praying to himself? Ask a United Pentecostal
that. In John 17, was Jesus praying to himself?
How then could he be the Father?
There are a lot of other verses that show that
there is plurality in the Godhead again, this time
in distinct and separate persons. In John 14:23 we
read:
"Jesus replied, ‘If anyone loves me, he will
obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and
we will come to him and make our
home with him.' "
Notice the plural words we and our.
The we and our refer to the Father and
the Son.
2 John 9 is one of many verses that refute
eternal security. But 2 Jn. 9 also shows
plurality in the Godhead:
"Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue
in the teaching of Christ does not have God;
whoever continues in the teaching has both
the Father and the Son."
So with the plural word both we know that
Jesus is not the Father. He can't be the Father,
because the word both is plural.
Probably the best argument is John 8:17, 18. This
is Jesus speaking and he said:
"In your own Law it is written that the
testimony of two men is valid. I am one
who testifies for myself; my other
witness is the one who sent me, the
Father."
He said, me and the Father are two.
So Jesus cannot be the Father.
In Revelation 5:7, we see where the Lamb comes to
the One seated on the throne, and takes the scroll
from his hand. We see where one is seated and one is
standing. One is stationary, one is moving. One is
yielding and the other is taking. So they can't be
the same. Clearly they are two distinct and
separate persons.
Finally, Jn. 4:24 states that God is spirit.
In contrast, the resurrected Jesus said regarding
himself in Lk. 24:39, handle me and see because a
spirit has not flesh and bones as you see me have. A
spirit, like the Father, doesn't have flesh and
bones. Yet Jesus has flesh and bones. So he can't be
the Father.
Is Jesus The Holy Spirit?
Is Jesus the Holy Spirit, like the United
Pentecostals or the Jesus Only group or the
Apostolics would say? John 14:16 gives us the
answer. And really it's the Greek. If you know
something about the Greek here, this is where it
will really pay off. In John 14:16, Jesus said:
"And I will ask the Father, and he will give
you another Counselor to be with you
forever-the Spirit of truth."
This word another in the Greek here
means a numerical difference. So Jesus cannot be
the Holy Spirit because it says another Counselor.
So Jesus is a different Counselor than the
Holy Spirit. They're distinct and separate.
Is The Father The Holy Spirit?
Finally, I wonder if the Father is the Holy
Spirit? If we can show that he is not, then we have
shown that there are three separate and distinct
persons in the Godhead. John 14:26 says:
"But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the
Father will send in my name, will teach you all
things and will remind you of everything I have
said to you."
Now notice, the Father is sending the Holy
Spirit. Since it is impossible to send yourself,
the Father can't be the Holy Spirit.
The Resurrection of Jesus Christ
So Jesus is not the Father. Jesus is not the Holy
Spirit. And the Holy Spirit is not the Father. One
final bit of evidence for the Biblical teaching of
the Godhead, also known as the Holy Trinity. And
that is with the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
The Bible teaches that God raised Jesus from
the dead (Acts 3:15 and Acts 13:30). And would
you believe that elsewhere in the New Testament, we
read that it was the Father who raised Jesus from
the dead and it was the Son who raised
himself from the dead. And finally, it was
the Holy Spirit who raised Jesus from the dead.
So how could it say the Father raised him, the Son
raised himself, and the Holy Spirit raised the Son,
and yet at another place, it would say that God
raised Jesus from the dead unless the Father, Son
and Holy Spirit are the one true God by
nature?
The verses are: The Father raised Jesus from the
dead (Gal. 1:1). The Son raised himself from the
dead (John 2:19-22; 10:17, 18). And finally, the
Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead (Romans
8:11).
Is there a point in time in the Bible when all
three appear individually at once? At Jesus'
baptism, Jesus was there. The Holy Spirit in dove
form was there. And the Father spoke from heaven.
A lot of people will brush aside the evidence,
but that doesn't mean that the evidence is
invalidated. All we can do is present the proof for
these Biblical teachings and if they're a lover of
the truth, they'll receive it. If not, they'll
reject it. And you've done your part when you give
them sound, irrefutable Biblical argumentation.
Comments from Ed:
When you're dealing with the Trinity, remember that
they're always going to try to get you on how and
why questions. Always revert back to the what and
where. When anybody asks you, or they begin to
question you about your concept of the Trinity,
notice the questions that they ask you. It's always,
well, how could God be a Trinity? Why is God a
Trinity? And you begin to pinpoint the how and the
why questions. The how and the why questions, this
half of the question or this half of the argument is
definitely a mystery. I don't know how he is, nor do
I know why he has chosen to reveal himself that way.
What you want to do is zero in on the what and
where. And Dan has given you a ton of what and
where. So you can basically say: There is a Father,
a Son and a Holy Spirit, all three separate persons.
And we can go through the Scriptures. You can
say, if the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit
all have the same attributes of each other, and it
says that God did it, then the three are the one
person. For example, you can do this. Ask a
Jehovah's Witness, who created the universe? Now
in Isaiah 44:24, and also in Job 9:8, it says God
alone created the universe. But yet we have Isaiah
64:8 that says the Father created. Jn. 1:3, Col.
1:16, Heb. 1:2 and Rev. 3:14 says the Son created.
It also says the Holy Spirit created (Job 26:13 and
Job 33:4). So you have Father, Son and Holy
Spirit all active and participating in the creation.
So again, zero in on what and where. Don't worry
about how and why. Tell him, I can't give you how
and why, but I can definitely give you what and
where.
Ed's comments end.
Closing Comments
The Jehovah's Witnesses have an answer for Jn.
1:1, and there's not very much that you can say. You
might be able to drive home a point if you would
have the Kingdom Interlinear. You could show a
comparison between Jn. 3:16 and Jn. 1:1 where they
try to make a point with a big G and a little g.
Well the same exact Greek word theos used in
Jn. 1:1 is translated in Jn. 3:16 with a capital G.
Ask them: Well why isn't The New World
Translation consistent because in Jn. 1:1 it's a
little g and in Jn. 3:16 it's a big G? But I
would stay away from the Trinity and the deity of
Christ and hammer away on the subject of salvation:
that we're saved by grace through faith. We trust in
Jesus alone, not any organization, not any
denomination. Of course, we have to repent or we
will perish. And if a Jehovah's Witness does that, I
truly believe that they'll become a Christian
without believing in the Trinity.
Ed comments again:
The deity of Christ and salvation dove tail. And the
reason is, when you're stressing salvation, you're
stressing that the person needs to come to Jesus
Christ. If Jesus Christ is not God, and this is when
it's confusing to a Jehovah's Witness, is because if
Jesus Christ is not God and we are coming to him,
then it's idolatry. But if Jesus Christ is God and
they don't come to him, they dishonor the Father. In
John 5:23, Jesus says honor me as you honor the
Father. If you do not honor me as you honor the
Father, you dishonor the Father. So as the creator
is above the creation, so is Jesus above his
creation. So if Jesus is coming down and saying,
look I want you to worship me, I want you to honor
me, and he is not God, it's idolatry because we
should only worship one. Exodus 34:14 says we only
are to worship him. But Jesus shows up on the scene
and he says, worship me, honor me. So therefore, if
Jesus is a creation, every Christian is an idolater
because we have worshiped the creation. But if Jesus
Christ is God, Jehovah's Witnesses have dishonored
Jehovah because they have not come to him.
Ed's comments end.
There's a Scripture in Jn. 8:24 that a lot of
learned Christians would use to base their
contention that you must believe in the deity of
Christ to be saved. And this verse does not say
the very thing that they're saying it does. Jn.
8:24 Jesus said:
"I told you that you would die in your sins;
if you do not believe that I am the one I
claim to be, you will indeed die in your
sins."
It says in the KJV unless you believe I am he,
you will die in your sins. ("He" is italicized, that
means it's not there.) When Paul went inside of a
synagogue in Acts chapter 13, you can read of his
detailed sermon. You can also read of Peter's sermon
in Acts chapter 10. To heathen people that did not
believe in the deity of Christ or the Trinity, Paul
and Peter never mentioned the deity of Christ or the
Trinity in their salvation sermons and in spite of
this people were still saved. Now if they were saved
without hearing about the Trinity, then people today
can get saved today without hearing about it. Jn.
3:16, God so loved the world that he gave his one
and only Son that whosoever would trust on, cling
to, rely on him would not perish but have
everlasting life. And of course that implies
submitting your will to him. I've talked to a number
of former Jehovah's Witnesses, and 90% told me that
after they were saved, then they learned about the
deity of Christ and the Trinity. Rather than trying
to teach something so hard to understand, so
abstract as the Trinity, why not present salvation
as Paul and Peter did.
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